kate: Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian promo with Chenqing (CQL: WangXian + Chenqing)
The June Something prompts!

Day 8: Tell me something about the last fandom thing you wrote. Or the last thing you read. Or the last thing you recced. Or all of them.

Oooooh, yes, thank you, I think I will!

Last fandom thing I wrote was about 1/3 of a fic for AUgust with the prompt sightless. I'm pretty far behind in the making of stuff for this, but I'm hoping to do at least some of them to shake stuff loose. This story (as most of my stories are) are WangXian, CQL-flavored MDZS. Not sure where I was going with it - potentially the porn route? But it turned angsty, so who knows where it'll end up.

I literally JUST finished a Thief!LWJ AU that was MASTERFUL and I immediately recced it to two people, so it is my answer for the second and third parts. I liked it so much I intend to podfic it as soon as I am not completely wrung out from work. :) :) :)

all the problems we could solve (19976 words) by Stratisphyre
Chapters: 3/3
Fandom: 陈情令 | The Untamed (TV), 魔道祖师 - 墨香铜臭 | Módào Zǔshī - Mòxiāng Tóngxiù
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Lán Zhàn | Lán Wàngjī/Wèi Yīng | Wèi Wúxiàn, Jiāng Chéng | Jiāng Wǎnyín & Jiāng Yànlí & Wèi Yīng | Wèi Wúxiàn, Lán Huàn | Lán Xīchén & Lán Zhàn | Lán Wàngjī
Characters: Wèi Yīng | Wèi Wúxiàn, Lán Zhàn | Lán Wàngjī, Jiāng Chéng | Jiāng Wǎnyín, Lán Huàn | Lán Xīchén, Jiāng Yànlí, Luó "Mián Mián" Qīngyáng, Yú Zǐyuān, Madam Lán (Módào Zǔshī)
Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - Modern, Getting Together, somewhat non-linear, Fluff and Humour and Violence, Meet-Cute, Identity Porn, Alternate Universe - Thieves, a bit of a leverage vibe
Summary: The most important thing Lan Wangji ever stole was roughly the equivalent to twenty dollars USD.

The second most important thing Lan Wangji ever stole was Wei Ying’s heart.
kate: Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian promo with Chenqing (CQL: WangXian + Chenqing)
Decided I wanted a drive and some podfic today, so I loaded up Waiting for Spring written by [archiveofourown.org profile] theivinghippo and read by [archiveofourown.org profile] mulberry_graceful, and listened to loving talk about baseball and Chicago while I drove Lakeshore Drive.

Then I stopped for the best ice cream I've had in my life bar none, Oberweis. It's a really good day.

kate: blue stars/other spacey things as seen from hubble telescope (space: blue stars)




Day 10: Drop your OTP or small ensemble from the fandom they're in into another fandom - how do they do?

Yanno, I feel like WangXian would do great in terms of pretty much anything? Like anything superhero/zombie/requiring fighting skills they'd be just fine for sure. Mystery and puzzles would probably be fine, thanks to Wei Ying. Musical anything would be fine for both of them.

Maybe something cooking related they might fail at? Wei Ying for sure, and Lan Zhan was basically upper echelon in his sect, so there's really no reason he should be able to cook (though it seems as though fandom makes him the one who cooks in modern AUs).

I enjoy the idea of plopping them into modern canons to watch them flounder. Technology might be interesting at least for a little while. But I feel like they'd kick ass in a Pacific Rim AU (there's currently one in progress that's ALSO a fusion with Avatar: the Last Airbender that's pretty fucking great).
kate: Chocolate dipped spoon resting atop a bowl with chocolate dripping down the side (Food: chocolate spoon)




Day 9: Drop the cast of a fandom you follow into a reality tv show - who/what/why?

It's tempting to do the C drama on this one because I've watched so much reality TV with them I could probably write you scenes from it. Wang Yibo on Street Dance of China 3, or Day Day Up, Xiao Zhan with XFIRE, and The Untamed Boys, who were just all adorable.

But putting them on, say, Top Chef or Project Runway, or Nailed It! Would be fucking hilarious. Project Runway, I think, because none of them sew, that I know of. Xiao Zhan cooks, and there are probably others who do, so Top Chef would be less fun. I don't have a lot of thoughts about them except that it would be fun to watch them be terrible at making stuff a la Nailed It.
kate: Cougar is hot with a gun (Losers: Cougar)




Day 7: What's the longest time you've been in a fandom. Not necessarily your oldest fandom, but a fandom that you started and still continue to read/write/create content for in some way.

I am mostly monofannish in terms of creating content. I dip back into old fandoms and forward into new ones occasionally in bursts, but typically, I have one main fandom that is the one I write content for. I podfic a little more broadly, but in a similar vein. Most of what I want to write or podfic right now is CQL/MDZS.

I also read mostly CQL/MDZS, but I will read other things if I'm in the mood or someone I trust writes something in a fandom I'm familiar with.

Which means that this question is basically: what fandom did you stick with the longest? And you know, Supernatural had a good 6 year run there, but it was edged out by The Losers from the month it came out for 7 years afterwards. So definitely The Losers, which was great because that was a great canon and a terrific fandom. So many wonderful friends from that fandom.
kate: Holtz grinning like she's just hit on... everyone (ghostbusters: holtz grinning)




Day 5: Compare and/or contrast your very first fandom obsession and your very latest fandom obsession.

I mean. When I was like…. 7? I was SUPER obsessed with Star Wars. But I was 7. So I was being obsessed all by myself. I was writing stories even then, but just for me. I never even thought of writing them down until many many years later. I think I had a few little things back in 1995-2004, random bits of various fandoms, but it was Alexander (2004) that turned me into a fanfic writer for real.

So now it's MDZS, and it's tough to really compare these because I wasn't part of fandom when I was a Star Wars fan. I didn't have any clue what fandom was for many years after that. So just the experience of being in fandom now, of knowing these are my people, is the best part about ANY fandom I'm in. I really, truly don't think you could've convinced me that I'd end up in Chinese drama fandom, like, literally up until it happened. Though all it took was a few posts of Lan Wangji's flowing hair on my dash, lol.

Other differences – I wrote self-insert back then (who didn't?) and don't now, except when I add myself as a side character (most often a friendly auntie or something) because I like to take care of my babies, even in fiction. But I wouldn't write a character x reader fic, or blatant self-insert fic now. Mainly because it's less about me escaping to the places I long to be and more about simply exploring the worlds and the characters.

Yeah, those are the biggest differences. Other than age, practice, and experience, lol, which make a huge difference in fandom enjoyment and the way I create for fandom. My obsession itself still feels very much the same, the depth of emotion and attachment. I just have a shared lexicon for it now, which is amazing.
kate: Eliot from Leverage, with his mug of coffee, right before he takes down a room in the dark. :) (Leverage: Eliot disguised as Daniel Jack)




Day 2: You've got your OTP, you have to throw a third into the mix (from the same fandom), creating an OT3. Who is the OTP, and in your opinion, why would they make a perfect third for them? Bonus question: What about adding a third to your OTP from a different fandom? Who and why?

Easiest and hardest question ever! My OTP is Wei Wuxian/Lan Wangji, and in MDZS/The Untamed, Wen Ning is absolutely my favorite 3rd with them. He's so fucking adorable!!! And he just worships WWX (who does not accept that with any grace at all). They're absolutely adorable together. (And yes, I have written this. (WangNingXian, ~6500 words, explicit)) I also like the idea of Wen Qing, but people have very scary (and sometimes gross) reactions to her, so there isn't much, if any, of this. The WIP I gave up for the MXTX Bargain Bin has a convoluted Nie Huaisang + WangXian relationship that I considered making into a threesome, though I gave it up before I got there, and there is a massive WangXian/Nie Mingjue fic that was actually pretty great. But Wen Ning will always be my fave.

Now for the hard part. A third from another canon. So for me, I don't like to mix pairings, so taking one character out of one of my other OTPs is not acceptable, though I'm okay with non-OTP pairings splitting up. For example, I wouldn't pick Rodney McKay or Cougar, but would be fine with Teyla Emmagen or Roque.

There are a few people I think would be a decent fit. Ronon Dex, actually, because he reminds me of Lan Wangji with flashes of Wei Wuxian, and he is of a similar level of hotness and also probably one of the few people who is tough enough to keep up with cultivators (and yeah, I think he'd make a good permanent third, actually). Eliot Spencer, because I often read him as aromantic but thoroughly devoted to Hardison and Parker, so picking him up as a third for extremely hot sex wouldn't screw up either the WangXian or the Leverage OT3 relationships. Da Qing, I think would be a good permanent partner in the same way Ronon Dex would, except that he is reversed in temperament – he reminds me of Wei Wuxian, but with flashes of Lan Wangji. Also I feel like both Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji would adore someone who could turn into a cat.
kate: Sharpened pencil writes 'kisa' (kisa writing)
So I saw this post on tumblr about fic that has Lan Wangji say "Wei Ying" instead of "you" and that it is not at all how it would be translated from the Chinese and it's a bit mystifying considering it doesn't happen in the source material at all but it seems to have become a fic convention.

I know for a fact I have done this in at least in one fic, if not more than one, and I think it might be related to this other post on tumblr about Lan Wangji talking in a higher register of speech, generally. (Hilariously, that post says it's about Lan Wangji but it's really more about Wei Wuxian and the way his register speaks to plot, characterization, and mood, but it's a fascinating read either way.)

So what I'm thinking happened with the whole Lan Zhan saying "I love Wei Ying" instead of "I love you" phenomenon (and that's only one example – there are zillions more) is that it is English speakers trying to capture Lan Wangji's register in a way that feels appropriate to them, even if it doesn't translate directly to or from the Chinese. English doesn't have a formal "you" like, say, French. There's just the word "you" for both formal and informal, singular and plural. And it is inherently personal. When English speakers are speaking formally (and I think this might even be truer for Brits, as Americans are inherently less formal), we don't say the word "you". We drop into other weird ways to distance ourselves from the conversation. I can think of a bunch of ways to do this (the royal we, using the word "one" instead of pronouns, etc.) but I think there are some ways in which Chinese uses names that are very foreign to an English ear, so what we've done is try to transliterate the feeling of Lan Wangji's register using something that wouldn't perhaps be directly translated that way, but which gives a similar feeling, using a device (using names in a situations where typically English speakers would use pronouns) that is used in the Chinese language.

I don't know that makes it right, but I think people's hearts are in the right place. It's about the sound of the thing – the rhythm in the turn of phrase, the music of the words. We're trying to recreate something we feel about Lan Wangji's mode of expression in a way that both gives the right connotation within the English language and yet feels like it comes from the Chinese. At least that's what's sort of lurking in the background when I write those things. Now to figure out if I need to change it. I can't tell if it's somehow offensive or just odd-sounding.

Ah, the joys of writing in a language where the canon is translated. I swore to myself I would never do this, and yet here I am. Someone save me.
kate: Holtz grinning like she's just hit on... everyone (ghostbusters: holtz grinning)
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In your own space, create a wishlist.

Oh MAN. Well, okay. Let's see what we've got here.

1. I don't currently have ANY The Untamed icons, and that's a damn shame. If anyone would be interested in sharing/making me some The Untamed icons, I would be OVER THE MOON! My faves are Lan Wangji, Wei Wuxian (and WangXian of course), Lan Sizhui (all the juniors, really), Wen Qing, Wen Ning, ALL THE SIBLINGS, GIMME, OMG. And bunnies. All of the above interacting with bunnies. I WANTS THEM.

2. I want everyone to take good care of themselves. No seriously - let me know some of the things you're doing for self-care, that would make me very happy. And hey, if self-care for you would be helped along by a sweet, 12 25-minute episode Japanese gay romance drama, with absolutely the sweetest, softest characters and situations ever, please consider watching Cherry Magic! 30 Years of Virginity Can Make You a Wizard?! The title is the premise, obvs, and it is so wonderful and soft and sweet and just... adorable. It totally had me squeaking throughout at the sweetness, I just adored everything. It was self-care at its finest.

3. I love to do cold reads. Like, a LOT. I like podfic, too, but I'm better at cold reads. More natural. If you're an author who might be into that, let me know. My fandoms are fairly broad - broader than the ones I've produced content in - and if we match up, maybe I will record something for you! If you want to know what a cold read sounds like, here's one I did of sami's Utterly Inevitable.

That's probably enough, right? Yeah, that's enough. <3
kate: Purple lit candle in an old fashioned candle holder (Candle: purple in an old fashioned holde)
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In your own space, rec at least three fanworks that you didn’t create.

OH MY GODDDDDDDD! I have SO MANY!!!

I'm going to, instead, rec three PEOPLE who make fanworks that I think are amazing and talk about some of their particular fanworks.

1. [twitter.com profile] jellyp0dfish | [archiveofourown.org profile] jellyfishfire.
Listen, Jelly is quite simply, may favorite podficcer ever. (She is also a good friend and someone I adore muchly, but I am specifically reccing her podfic here.) I love her voice, her character voices, her editing and special effects, and her amazingly deft touch with music. She has a gift, being able to find the right music for pretty much ANYTHING. You cannot go wrong with literally any of her podfics, but here are three of my absolute faves from her.
a. Snowmelt. This is a recent podfic, FOR ME! For ITPE, and she just NAILS the Lan Wangji voice. I LOVE her Lan Wangji voice SO MUCH and the pacing on this one is brutal. Currently this is my "falling asleep helper" podfic. It's so lovely.
b. where the field meets the woods. This is SO CREEPY. It was done for Wei Wuxian's birthday (Halloween) and it is SO GOOD and SO CREEPY and the special effects are amazing, and I listened to this on repeat for a month.
c. A Civil Combpaign. This fic is so fantastic, and Jelly's great when the fic is mediocre or better, but when the fic is good, she's AMAZING. This is a long recording with delightful juniors, and just. It's so much fun. When I need something a little angstier, I listen to the second part, Besieged, from Wei Wuxian's POV. All of it is so amazing. This one probably hooked me on her stuff and I will never not go to it as an example of a great fic read well.
Runner up: let the streetlights guide you home. Only a runner up because the final chapters are still in process. The fic just finished posting in... hm, November? And she was busy making me THREE (3) podfics for ITPE so didn't go back to it right away, but she's close to done, and it's SO WORTH A LISTEN. The music is fucking FANTASTIC and her reading extremely atmospheric.

2. [tumblr.com profile] pumpkinpaix | [archiveofourown.org profile] pumpkinpaix
Pumpkinpaix is an all around good egg, and has so much talent! Fic, art, meta, podfic, translation, I have to fan myself, this much talent in a single person, who is also fundamentally good and understanding and willing to deal with complexities (which is so nice in these times when everything gets reduced down to its simplest form all the time). Love.
a. forgive me my most passionate disruptions. What a delightful modern AU fic!!! Wei Wuxian is a stripper, Lan Wangji is... Lan Wangji... with an interesting take on his headspace. Great supporting cast and just generally a wonderful read.
b. podfic of the moon lives in the lining of your skin. They were roommates! I love the story, and really enjoy pumpkinpaix's reading. As someone who is just learning Chinese and struggles with pronouncing things as well as possible, her pronunciation is just so... perfect. I could listen to her say the characters' names all day long.
c. meta, translation, and everything else. pumpkinpaix is just a really great voice of reason in the midst of heated discourse. I like their takes a lot and value their knowledge, it's been super helpful to me personally. I absolutely love their translation of MDZS, partially because it includes comprehensive notes about why the phrases were chosen and what other alternatives were. All generally GREAT.

3. [tumblr.com profile] ariaste | [archiveofourown.org profile] Ariaste
Picking a favorite author in MDZS was tough; I really like so many things in this fandom, there are so many talented people writing such good stuff. I settled on Ariaste because the story Jelly podficced (and its sequel) are just so amazing, and then I've been coldreading their most recent series, which has literally had me laughing for solid minutes. If I need a smile, I listen to my coldreading of their HOA series. It's so good. They are a professional author so there's just a lot of talent backing up their fic, simple ability to really get at your emotions, which is amazing.
a. Meng Yao vs. the Board of the Homeowner's Association series. This is, quite simply, the most hilarious modern day AU you've ever read. It will have you grinning hugely if not outright laughing. This is the only Meng Yao I ever want in my life. (Also there is SO MUCH SOFTNESS - and delightful outside POV on WangXian).
b. Content Warning: Romance. A lot of people make a lot of Wei Wuxian's line "you have to warn me [before saying nice things about me]" but this really explores it so beautifully. My heart just clenches every single time I read it, and then it releases and I feel so much better. It's wonderfully warm and healing.
c. Attempting the Impossible. Okay so obviously Civil Combpaign and Besieged are right up there, but honestly - listen to Jelly's podfic. It's so good, and if it's the first time you've read the story, the reading will make it extra special. So this one, this is Jiang Cheng POV which is fucking brilliant, and it's WangXian with SO MANY KIDS and living outside Gusu and just. So many kids, but they all have distinct personalities and it's.... just lovely? Most of Ariaste's fic is just warm and lovely and post-canon good feels, and I love this one as much as all the rest.
kate: OM NOM NOM HOT CHOCOLATE (Food: hot cocoa)
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In your own space, promote a canon/talk about a part of canon that you love.

Well, I'm gonna talk about MDZS, obviously. I started with the live action canon (The Untamed on Netflix, CQL in Chinese) because obviously pretty boys with long hair is my thing. I then read the book (it's based on an internet boy love novel), then watched the donghua, have had a hard time finding the manhua, but would like to read it, and listened to some of the audio novel. I've heard arguments for why any version of canon is better than any other, and they all obviously have their high and low points. I like the visuals of CQL; I like the complexity of the novel; the art of the donghua (and what I've seen of the manhua); and the verisimilitude of the audio drama to the novel. I don't like how Wei Wuxian is less morally grey in CQL, some of the terrible effects, or the fact that it's so obviously censored; I'm not in love with the sex scenes in the novel (no moral objections, they're just not my thing); the donghua seems a bit weirdly paced?; manhua and audio drama are both difficult formats for me, attention-wise.

I don't mind people having a favorite version, but there's a lot of forceful feelings about it, and objections to other people's favorite version and I just... am not here for that. I don't care what other people like, LET THEM HAVE WHAT THEY LIKE. They aren't hurting anyone. I can like what I like over here. I mean - it's like, here's this cool thing! You can enjoy it as a cake, pudding, trifle, pie, or fruit salad. Why is having more versions of something anything less than absolutely fucking fantastic? I dunno. So anyway, no matter your medium, MDZS has a hook for you!

Now the canon itself in general is amazing because of the amazing political backdrop and plot that pervades what is essentially a love story. It is angsty up to eleven and I definitely cried in multiple places. I was also angry on behalf of the characters and frustrated... it definitely tapped into all of my emotions. Add into that really great family structures and relationships, a huge cast with characters that are all pretty well-developed and interesting, and it's just really great. I'll admit it takes some wherewithal to stick with it for the first couple of episodes, especially if you do not speak Chinese and have not seen a C Drama before, but I promise it is worth it. (And oh my GOD do not let anyone convince you that you can skip the first two episodes. NO. DO NOT SKIP. You will be lost 90-95% of the time, and that's fine! Teach yourself patience and the ability to go without knowing, it will be explained later, and when you go back and watch those episodes afterwards, you will be going O_______O - but not if you skipped them the first time around.)

Once you get into it a ways, there are a TON of resources in the fandom, so you can go looking for names/titles/clans etc. and find fairly exhaustive resources, and then there are a bunch of more detailed resources around hanfu, the timeline, Chinese customs and holidays, and pretty much anything you might need to research to produce fan content. Ahem. I'm just saying.

So anyway. The Untamed. I love love love it. I would love to earn my toaster by getting people into it, but I keep running into people from old fandoms that have joined CQL/MDZS so that's kind of amazing, actually. :D

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